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Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"

Posted by zoras girl 
Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 20, 2007 12:55PM
Help Help help...
I have a sunbeam bakehouse, only 6 months old,....
My old machine made lovely bread, but it dosent matter what I do with this one, change the flour, change the yeast...etc etc etc I can't make a decent loaf of bread...We prefer Brown, has anyone got any great recipes for me to try or any suggestions please....Apart from throw it in the HARBOUR...
Many Thanks
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 20, 2007 02:03PM
Hi ya, I had one of these bread makers.

You need to add more yeast to the recipe.

Like when it said 2 teaspoons, i added 3.

I hope this helps.As I only ever made 5 loaves..2 were disasters
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 20, 2007 09:03PM
I started with a Panasonic, which made lovely bread, and only bought a new breadmaker because I wanted a long loaf not a tall one. However, the 'top of the line' one I bought was a dud. No matter what I did, I could only make windowless buildings and the birds could no longer take off after breakfast. So after 3 months of trying I took it back to Noel Leeming who accepted the return, no questions asked. I can't remember what brand it was, it's history. However, I did buy a 2nd hand Sunbeam Bakehouse through this forum and it makes beautiful bread. I use 2 teaspoons yeast, 1 cup white flour, 2 cups wholemeal flour, 1 tablespoon sugar, 1 teaspoon salt, 2 tablespoons skim milk powder and about 2 tablespoons oil. I add exactly 3/4 cup of water and check the dough after about 4 minutes of kneading, at which point I adjust with either more water or more flour as necessary. The adjustment is a teaspoonful of either at a time, allowing another couple of minutes kneading before checking again. It's amazing how much of a difference a teaspoon of water or flour will make. I use the same principle when adding things like fruit, nuts or seeds, adjusting the mixture as necessary in the first few minutes of kneading. Aim for a very soft smooth dough, very slightly sticky to the touch, and silky looking.
For the amounts I have given, I set the breadmaker to 750gr loaf, and either White or Wholemeal, both give good results, but the white is a bit quicker. However, most times I will just use the Dough setting and bake the bread in the oven in a more suitably shaped loaf tin. I'm fussy when it comes to my loaf of bread - I like the slices to fit in my toaster smiling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2007 09:05PM by Lorna.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 21, 2007 12:17AM
Yippie,
Thank you ladies, I am new to the forum and do so appreciate your help.....
I am away to buy fresh yeast and flour and will try your loaf Lorna this afternoon...Many Thanks
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 21, 2007 11:07AM
1 last hint...also check whether your 'disaster' recipes were Australian as their tablespoons are bigger than ours and this can make a big difference (from memory, 1 Aussie tablespoon = 1 NZ tablespoon + 1 NZ teaspoon
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 21, 2007 11:28AM
My mother had constant problem in the last 6-12 months with new Sunbeam breadmakers and kept taking them back to Briscoes where she got them and they replaced them every time...maybe two of them! The last one is superb and works like it should. I would suggest returning it saying that it isn''t making loaves like it should.....consumers act would cover you.

Clare
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 21, 2007 09:11PM
hi guys
thanks so much for this thread i thought it was just me who was having trouble.
my old bread maker which i got from a garage sale and it lasted 3 years made prefect bread. but my new sunbeam bakehouse i have not had one good loaf from it at all i was very disappointed with it but now i will try what you have suggested thanks so much. i am glad it is not me alone

carolyn
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 21, 2007 09:27PM
hi
just one question if you are putting the dough in the oven Lorna what temp and how long do you cook it.
i have looked thru my cookbooks and i get different times and temps so your help would be great
cheers
carolyn
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 22, 2007 02:33AM
Hi Ladies,
Have now made two loaves......Just perfect...And a Large loaf by adding 1 more cup of wholemeal flour, a bit more water and extra yeast....Am now a happy camper.....Thanks Girls
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 22, 2007 10:05PM
Carolyn, bake at 160° for 35 minutes, covering the top with foil after about 15 minutes if it's getting too brown. Turn it out of the loaf tin straight away - if the bottom is golden brown and sounds hollow when you tap it, it is done. If it needs a few more minutes, just pop it straight back in the oven - no need to put it back in the tin.

Zoras, 'm so pleased that your bread is turning out OK. smiling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2007 10:08PM by Lorna.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 23, 2007 07:35AM
hi
thanks i will try fingers crossed.
carolyn
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 26, 2007 12:20AM

I bought a sanyo breadmaker about 1997 and it was very good , no trouble with it at all and it was in constant use. It finally gave up on me last year and I bought a sunbeam bakehouse from Briscoes. I used the white bread recipe from the sunbeam book and all we got was a rock which had to be thrown out . Tried again, but no good so decided to go back to my trusty Alison Holst recipe and have found that the best. I always check the dough to see if it is wet enough or too dry and adjust the liquid accordingly, Alison Holst recommends this in her bread book. I also make a loaf with half white flour and half wholemeal. With my sanyo I could also use the delayed setting overnight with no problems but have not tried it with the sunbeam. However I do feel that the manufactures of the sunbeam breadmaker need to do more to make this appliance more user friendly for the N.Z market.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 26, 2007 11:04PM
The recipes in the Sunbeam book are using Australian measurements and yeasts. There should be a NZ supplement booklet with your machine that uses our measurements and ingredients. Having said that, I played around with varying amounts of flour mixes, water, etc and can now successfully make just about any sort of loaf I like. I hesitate to use the delayed timer because I like to check the kneading in the first few minutes as the weather has such a bearing on how much water to add. Flour absorbs moisture, even when kept in an airtight container, so on a wet or humid day I might use very slightly less water than usual. I start with the smallest amount and add more as necessary. Also, the age of the flour (and other ingredients) is important, but as I make all my own bread, my flours, etc are as fresh as I can get them from the supermarket. On the occasions I have used the delayed timer (usually overnight) I have not been entirely happy with the results. Just a point here: I always use warm water to start with and when adding more water during kneading, I make sure it is about blood heat or a bit warmer. Never add cold water to your dough.

Today I am going to try a brioche using the ingredients from a breadmaker web site but the method from a hand-made baking web site. I will do as usual, use the breadmaker for the tedious kneading then do the final rise and baking manually. If it's successful I'll post the recipe here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2007 11:07PM by Lorna.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
October 27, 2007 10:23PM
All I can say about the breadmaker brioche recipe is 'don't bother.' What a waste of eggs and butter! Did I miscalculate the conversion for the amount of butter. It called for 12 tablespoons or 1 1/2 sticks. I much prefer to weigh my butter so came up with 170gr as the equivalent. Can anyone tell me if I was wrong?
Anyway, after the 2nd rising, my dough was sitting in a bath of butter that had oozed out. I continued anyway and baked for the recommended time, but the result was a very dark and thick crusted lump of crumbly but very buttery and heavy 'cake'. After the birds have nbbled on it they have to go and clean their beaks on the nearest piece of rough bark!
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
November 05, 2007 06:03AM
Have just bought a Sunbeam bake house and have made the pizza dough and that turned out well. Was just about to make a traditional white bread loaf and saw that it needed bread improver what is this and do I need it? We used to have a Panasonic one and it never needed this.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
November 05, 2007 09:14AM
The sure bake yeast has the bread improver in it. I have also seen somewhere bread improver might have been Binn Inn.
Jean

Jean
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
November 05, 2007 10:43AM
Yes, Binn Inn does have bread improver but you can make the bread without it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2007 10:44AM by PennyG.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
November 05, 2007 08:28PM
Thanks I have the Surebake yeast so I'll try my first loaf today without it, fingers crossed.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
November 07, 2007 03:30AM
If the recipe says to use bread improver then it probably is designed for active yeast rather than surebake. If you use surebake you will need to use twice as much as it says. Surebake is a mixture of yeast and improver so is only half yeast.
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
January 12, 2009 11:54PM
After 10 years of constant use and lovely breads my Breville Breadmaker has had enought and is not preforming very well anymore. So I got myself a new Sunbeam Bakehouse hoping for great breads, but like you ladies say, no matter what I adjust the bread is very heavy and dense. I decided to use my 750g recipe from my Breville book and it turned out much, much better.
The difference in the amount of flour for a 750g loaf is substantial, Sunbeam uses 600g and Breville 450g and for a 1 kg loaf Sunbeam 680g and Breville 650g. Could it be a misprint on Sunbeam's Recipe Booklet that is cuasing us problems?

Also the Breville recipe booklet advises NZ customers to replace 3 tsp of Edmonds Surebake for the Bread Improver and Yeast amounts given in all recipes if desired, which I've always done with excellent results.

Hope this helps.
Help....I have the Sunbeam Bakehouse nreadmaker with the collapsible dough "hook". It does not "collapse" and gets soooo stuck to the shaft in the pan that even my husband can't get it out without major effort. Help!!! Thank you
Re: Sunbeam bread maker.".Disaster"
August 12, 2012 10:45AM
I had an old sunbeam breadmaker which was wonderful. I used it every 2 or 3 days for about 15 years. When it gave up the ghost I purchased a new Sunbeam. I returned about 4 models to Noel Leemings. In the end they gave me a voucher, and I waited until I was able to buy a new panasonic. It is wonderful, and I have used it every 2 or 3 days for the last 2 years.
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