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Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue
Posted by J1
Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 09, 2019 09:30AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 3,660 |
If you buy smoked salmon from Countdown under the brand names Ocean Blue and Clearly Premium, which are Products of Denmark, then you may unwittingly be contributing to the starvation of puffins, kittiwakes and other seabirds in the North Sea area. Denmark is stripping the area of sand eels which puffins, kittiwakes, etc, rely on to feed their young. The sand eels are crushed into fishmeal for Denmark’s intensive salmon, mink and livestock farms. For further information see [notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com]
Note Countdown's own brand salmon ("Countdown Smoked Salmon" ) is referred to in some places online (I haven't checked the packaging instore) as "Atlantic salmon" so is highly likely to also be Danish salmon.
It would be good if consumers boycott the product, but it would also be nice if Countdown stopped stocking it.
Note Countdown's own brand salmon ("Countdown Smoked Salmon" ) is referred to in some places online (I haven't checked the packaging instore) as "Atlantic salmon" so is highly likely to also be Danish salmon.
It would be good if consumers boycott the product, but it would also be nice if Countdown stopped stocking it.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 09, 2019 09:53AM |
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Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 10, 2019 01:14AM |
Admin Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7,920 |
Thanks J1.
Chris can you tell me the ecological difference between Marlborough salmons such as Regal and Aoraki. I usually buy the latter but interested to hear what you think.
I have visited Marlborough salmon farms on a Regal Salmon media famil and Aoraki salmon to buy salmon when passing but am not aware of differences in terms of how they farm. I imagine Stewart island would have masses of fresh water washing through as opposed to the M sounds.
Chris can you tell me the ecological difference between Marlborough salmons such as Regal and Aoraki. I usually buy the latter but interested to hear what you think.
I have visited Marlborough salmon farms on a Regal Salmon media famil and Aoraki salmon to buy salmon when passing but am not aware of differences in terms of how they farm. I imagine Stewart island would have masses of fresh water washing through as opposed to the M sounds.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 10, 2019 02:20AM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 2,411 |
helen Wrote:
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> Thanks J1.
> Chris can you tell me the ecological difference
> between Marlborough salmons such as Regal and
> Aoraki. I usually buy the latter but interested
> to hear what you think.
> I have visited Marlborough salmon farms on a Regal
> Salmon media famil and Aoraki salmon to buy salmon
> when passing but am not aware of differences in
> terms of how they farm. I imagine Stewart island
> would have masses of fresh water washing through
> as opposed to the M sounds.
Aoraki salmon is raised in really fast flowing and very cold water that comes directly from the Alps and the feed contains no vaccines or antibiotics. On The way home to Wanaka we used to drive along a deep canal that seemed to stretch for miles to a shop the company had. However, they now operate a shop by the highway and the ‘road’ is closed. Stewart Island salmon is also raised invery cold and clean waters. As far as I know, Marlborough salmon farms are in much warmer waters and seem to experience lots of fish deaths with the seabed bei g polluted. I don’t know if they use antibiotics.
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> Thanks J1.
> Chris can you tell me the ecological difference
> between Marlborough salmons such as Regal and
> Aoraki. I usually buy the latter but interested
> to hear what you think.
> I have visited Marlborough salmon farms on a Regal
> Salmon media famil and Aoraki salmon to buy salmon
> when passing but am not aware of differences in
> terms of how they farm. I imagine Stewart island
> would have masses of fresh water washing through
> as opposed to the M sounds.
Aoraki salmon is raised in really fast flowing and very cold water that comes directly from the Alps and the feed contains no vaccines or antibiotics. On The way home to Wanaka we used to drive along a deep canal that seemed to stretch for miles to a shop the company had. However, they now operate a shop by the highway and the ‘road’ is closed. Stewart Island salmon is also raised invery cold and clean waters. As far as I know, Marlborough salmon farms are in much warmer waters and seem to experience lots of fish deaths with the seabed bei g polluted. I don’t know if they use antibiotics.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 10, 2019 06:27AM |
Admin Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7,920 |
Oh thanks Chris and I will investigate further as I am interested.
Yes I do understand that the Marlborough Sounds farms get a bit smelly and dirty.
I will find out more though.
My kids row every second year at Twizel so it is a good excuse to call in and buy salmon.
My local NW in Auckland has Aoraki too and it is my brand of choice.
Yes I do understand that the Marlborough Sounds farms get a bit smelly and dirty.
I will find out more though.
My kids row every second year at Twizel so it is a good excuse to call in and buy salmon.
My local NW in Auckland has Aoraki too and it is my brand of choice.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 12, 2019 09:05AM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 689 |
Aoraki is my brand of choice too, as it's in the area recommended by Forest and Bird as most sustainable for salmon farming. So Chris I am very interested in what you say about it, because I don't live in that part of the country, and haven't visited the farm (I suppose you'd call it a farm!) Many thanks for the info.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue September 13, 2019 04:39AM |
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Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue October 15, 2019 01:36AM |
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Unfortunately, I find Aoraki salmon too salty for my palate. I have some Southern Ocean smoked salmon at the moment, which I don't find too salty and it's what I tend to gravitate towards because of this. I decided I should check the salt content of the various smoked salmons, to get a better understanding.
Cold smoked salmon per 100g:
Aoraki - sodium 1200mg
Prime - sodium 1100mg
Regal - sodium 770mg
Southern Ocean - sodium 670mg
I delved a bit more. 1 gram (1000mg) of sodium per 100g is 2.5 grams of salt per 100g. The maximum daily amount of salt recommended for adult New Zealanders is about 6g (2300mg sodium). One teaspoon of salt = 5g (2000mg sodium).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2019 02:12AM by J1.
Cold smoked salmon per 100g:
Aoraki - sodium 1200mg
Prime - sodium 1100mg
Regal - sodium 770mg
Southern Ocean - sodium 670mg
I delved a bit more. 1 gram (1000mg) of sodium per 100g is 2.5 grams of salt per 100g. The maximum daily amount of salt recommended for adult New Zealanders is about 6g (2300mg sodium). One teaspoon of salt = 5g (2000mg sodium).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2019 02:12AM by J1.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue October 27, 2020 11:12PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 3,660 |
If you prefer to buy and support New Zealand salmon, be aware that some Prime smoke salmon products, for instance the shavings, (which are produced by NZ salmon company Sovereign) are NOT NZ salmon. The packaging has no reference to country of origin and merely states in the ingredients list: "Salmon (Salmo salar)". This is Atlantic salmon, which Sovereign has received from Norway. (NZ only grows Chinook salmon also known as King Salmon.) I'm very disappointed in this packaging and emailed the company (https://www.salmonheaven.nz/) to express my disappointment. Their website also says "Unique and flavoursome brand of NZ smoked salmon loved by Kiwis and salmon lovers the world over."
I've received a reply from the company, They say "we are going to be placing a label on all packets during production which states “Processed in NZ from Norwegian Atlantic salmon”. This label is about to be printed and applied so you will begin to see this in store in the next 2-3 weeks."
They also say "Our website proudly promotes our NZ salmon products. However we are now organising an Atlantic salmon section clearly showing the small number of products that are made from Norwegian Atlantic salmon."
I'm pleased they are working to remedy the situation but it is disappointing it was not made clear in the first place.
I've received a reply from the company, They say "we are going to be placing a label on all packets during production which states “Processed in NZ from Norwegian Atlantic salmon”. This label is about to be printed and applied so you will begin to see this in store in the next 2-3 weeks."
They also say "Our website proudly promotes our NZ salmon products. However we are now organising an Atlantic salmon section clearly showing the small number of products that are made from Norwegian Atlantic salmon."
I'm pleased they are working to remedy the situation but it is disappointing it was not made clear in the first place.
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue October 28, 2020 01:39AM |
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Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue October 28, 2020 02:50AM |
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I was once persuaded to try Atlantic salmon, it's awful, tasteless, mushy and too many food miles. Tasmanian salmon is similar. I now buy slowly and look for the NZ salmon written on the packaging .Thanks for the info though and now will look for the less salty brands from the lower south island
Re: Danish Smoked Salmon (e.g. Ocean Blue, Clearly Premium) ecological issue October 28, 2020 05:45AM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 2,411 |
Thank you, J1. Well done. Sometimes I wonder how willing companies are to be transparent in labelling their products unless questioned or pushed. As an aside, the heavy duty plastic packaging used for some salmon products also annoy me. Very hard to cut into the plastic and the packaging is far too large for the small portions contained therein. Totally unneccessary.
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