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Posted by helen
Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 05:09AM |
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My parents house in Hokitika is miserably cold.
The kitchen/living are fine but the hallway and bedrooms are so cold.
I am looking for a heating solution (no double glazing) that will take the chill off, if we had something in the hallway then the heat would spread. It isn't a big house.
Does anyone have a heater that they would recommend?
I know double glazing is more eco efficient but there is so much to do in the house and the heater will be just a band aid for now until they move.
The kitchen/living are fine but the hallway and bedrooms are so cold.
I am looking for a heating solution (no double glazing) that will take the chill off, if we had something in the hallway then the heat would spread. It isn't a big house.
Does anyone have a heater that they would recommend?
I know double glazing is more eco efficient but there is so much to do in the house and the heater will be just a band aid for now until they move.
Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 06:22AM |
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Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 06:39AM |
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Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 08:22AM |
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Not counting upfront costs, heat pumps are the cheapest to run. Any other type of heater will cost more to run. Say your power costs 36 cents per kWh, if your chosen heater is s 2000W one, it will cost 72 cents (36 cents per 1000W) per hour, so if it's on for six hours a day - 6 hours x 72 cents = $4.32 per day and you run that seven days a week then that's $30.24 for one week and $130 approx per month.
Nightstore type heaters (similar to a panel heater), are able to take advantage of the cheaper night electricity rates which are usually less than half the day electricity rates (e.g. 14-15 cents per kWh). The cheap rates are between 11pm and 7am, so if you ran a 2000W nightstore heater for the full 8hrs of night rate, at 15 cents per kWh, the costs would be - one night $2.40, one week $16.80, one month $72. You just set the auto timer for nighttime. You can run them normally during the day as well but of course you'd be paying the day rate. There's newer versions these days too, which can do fancy things - see [www.eepl.co.nz]
Having had experience with woodburners, normal heaters, nightstore heaters and ducted heatpump systems, and considering the runnings costs as always an important factor, I'd explore heatpump first.
Nightstore type heaters (similar to a panel heater), are able to take advantage of the cheaper night electricity rates which are usually less than half the day electricity rates (e.g. 14-15 cents per kWh). The cheap rates are between 11pm and 7am, so if you ran a 2000W nightstore heater for the full 8hrs of night rate, at 15 cents per kWh, the costs would be - one night $2.40, one week $16.80, one month $72. You just set the auto timer for nighttime. You can run them normally during the day as well but of course you'd be paying the day rate. There's newer versions these days too, which can do fancy things - see [www.eepl.co.nz]
Having had experience with woodburners, normal heaters, nightstore heaters and ducted heatpump systems, and considering the runnings costs as always an important factor, I'd explore heatpump first.
Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 11:17AM |
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Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 12:25PM |
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For older people who want a quick, easy heat... heat pump all the way.
We have a log burner in one end of the house and a heat pump at the other (tiny house, but two distinct halves) and I much prefer the log burner heat, and for us it is cheap as we source our own wood. But its a hassle and a half to mess around with wood.
The heat pump in the kitchen/dining area changes the room in minutes, but I don't like the dry and blowing thing. Just make sure that your parents know how to use a heat pump -- that is, not like a plug in fan heater.
Set the control to say, 19 degrees and just leave it to do its thing. Lots of people crank it up to max 28 or whatever, wait for the room to overheat, then turn it off, and wonder why they have enormous power bills. Set and forget. You don't have to leave it on 24/7, but when its on leave it at that temp and it will keep the room at that comfortable level.
We have our poorly insulated, single glazed house set to 19 during the day when it is on, and on very cold night we'll leave it on the lowest temp, 16, just so the house doesn't get super cold overnight.. with the log burner going in the other room.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2020 12:26PM by Jenna.
We have a log burner in one end of the house and a heat pump at the other (tiny house, but two distinct halves) and I much prefer the log burner heat, and for us it is cheap as we source our own wood. But its a hassle and a half to mess around with wood.
The heat pump in the kitchen/dining area changes the room in minutes, but I don't like the dry and blowing thing. Just make sure that your parents know how to use a heat pump -- that is, not like a plug in fan heater.
Set the control to say, 19 degrees and just leave it to do its thing. Lots of people crank it up to max 28 or whatever, wait for the room to overheat, then turn it off, and wonder why they have enormous power bills. Set and forget. You don't have to leave it on 24/7, but when its on leave it at that temp and it will keep the room at that comfortable level.
We have our poorly insulated, single glazed house set to 19 during the day when it is on, and on very cold night we'll leave it on the lowest temp, 16, just so the house doesn't get super cold overnight.. with the log burner going in the other room.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2020 12:26PM by Jenna.
Re: Heating recommendation July 08, 2020 07:30PM |
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Re: Heating recommendation July 09, 2020 12:17AM |
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Griz Wrote:
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> It's not cheap but if they don't have insulation
> in the walls or underfloor then I'd be looking to
> address that too. Also heat pumps often don't
> work well when it's really cold outside, if the
> temp goes below about -3 here we have difficulty
> with ours.
Griz, we had problems with our main heat pump for this very reason, and chose to replace it with a Mitsubishi which won't shut down and restart until it is minus 15. I would be very worried if Hamilton reached -15. I did a lot of research and Mitsubishi were the only brand that fortunately did this.
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> It's not cheap but if they don't have insulation
> in the walls or underfloor then I'd be looking to
> address that too. Also heat pumps often don't
> work well when it's really cold outside, if the
> temp goes below about -3 here we have difficulty
> with ours.
Griz, we had problems with our main heat pump for this very reason, and chose to replace it with a Mitsubishi which won't shut down and restart until it is minus 15. I would be very worried if Hamilton reached -15. I did a lot of research and Mitsubishi were the only brand that fortunately did this.
Re: Heating recommendation July 09, 2020 03:00AM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 607 |
I agree with others' views on a heat pump for your parents' house, Helen. My elderly Dad had one in Dunedin and used it on a 'set and forget' basis - it was great. Of course it can be used to cool the house in the summer also. They do have to be serviced - filters changed etc.but from a safety and ease of use perspective, I think a heat pump is the answer in your parent's situation.
As an aside, Jenna, had you considered a ducting system to duct the warm air from the wood burner end of your house to the other. They are relatively inexpensive and capture all that lovely warm air that rises to the top of the room and ducts it to another room or rooms.
Just a thought.
Regards,
Barbara Anne
As an aside, Jenna, had you considered a ducting system to duct the warm air from the wood burner end of your house to the other. They are relatively inexpensive and capture all that lovely warm air that rises to the top of the room and ducts it to another room or rooms.
Just a thought.
Regards,
Barbara Anne
Re: Heating recommendation July 10, 2020 12:09AM |
Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 279 |
Helen - do you know that Warmer Kiwi Homes will supply a heat pump for a fraction of the market price if your parents are eligible? Friends here in Havelock North have just benefited from this Govt. initiative. $300 rather than $3000! We are ineligible unfortunately having a flued gas fire in our living room. Worth looking into!
Re: Heating recommendation July 14, 2020 05:01AM |
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