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Posted by Raewyn G 
Raewyn G
November 04, 2004 10:58AM
Did the earth move for you about 9.45 tonight (4/11/04)
What a rattle we got here in Palmerston North.
Gee I hate them!!!
I'm all a quiver!!!
Re: Earthquake
November 04, 2004 11:55AM
Nothing here in Taupo so far... I hate them too, I never know if it's another shake or the adrenalin pumping. Had some useful tips sent to me with regards to earthquakes and other nasties, should I post here, or would that be a pain?
Keep safe!
Re: Earthquake
November 04, 2004 09:30PM
had no idea, of course I am up in Hamilton, but nothing on the news this morning. How scary, I have only ever encountered 1 in my young days and was a tad merry at the time, and then the 2nd I was up in the air above wellington and we couldn't land until all was a ok.
Jen would appreciate your tips please
Re: Earthquake
November 04, 2004 10:35PM
No earthquakes in hamilton but must say when in Bali last month we experienced one, it was scary to say the least. We were on the top floor balcony having drinks when we heard this rumbling noise then the balcony swayed. I saw the railings come away from the side of the building. Hubby yelled get out of here and we flew down the stairs along with several others. Afterwards I realised we should have stayed in the bldg but hubby said the way the buildings are built we are better outside. Luckily there was no damage but I later heard someone was killed. Not sure if thats true or not.
Re: Earthquake/Long!
November 05, 2004 01:54AM
Well the message did say to spread the word, so here goes!

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.

In 1996 we made a film which proved my survival methodology to be correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my "triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe, and it was seen in the USA, Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under their desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life". The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building. They are everywhere.

1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.

3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.

6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.

8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked;

9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.

10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

Spread the word and save someoneĀ¹s life...
Re: Earthquake/Long!
November 05, 2004 03:16AM
Jen, that is extremely information (as your links normally are). Thanks for that.
Re: Earthquake
November 05, 2004 05:00AM
Yes I did feel it and I'm in New Plymouth.

It was more like a sudden bang and then a roll here.

Have a look at

there is a section on there recent earthquakes.

Raewyn G
Re: Earthquake
November 05, 2004 06:49AM
Thanks Megan.

Re: Earthquake
November 05, 2004 09:03AM
Hi Raewyn
Yes I felt it and didnt like it at all, the two men here never felt it at all, only read about it as they didnt believe me
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